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Danny Rosenstein's avatar

Antisemitism is a fundamental part of DEI & the modern progressive movement. Disney’s philosophy is based entirely on DEI, so Disney’s erasure of Sabra’s Israeli and Jewish identity reflects Disney’s current culture. The intersection of DEI and antisemitism is explained in “Woke Antisemitism,” by David Bernstein. This obsession with DEI is just one reason why Disney has destroyed the Marvel and Star Wars franchises.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Thank you, I will check out that book.

At this rate they may replace Captain America with Sinwar if they can smuggle him out Khan Younis. I love Star Wars, but I found the Acolyte to be unwatchable.

I think I'm done with Disney for awhile. I'll wait a decade or two for the pendulum to swing back the other way and the next generation to fix it and reboot everything. I would love to help Jews crowdfund buying the rights to Sabra's character from Disney and making the most Zionist action spy thriller ever made. We have to save Sabra from these people.

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ron's avatar

We need straight male Israeli superheroes who are traditional, honest, clever have common sense and respect religion even if they arent dati.

Our sisters are brave lionesses, They love us. We are not doing them any favors by portraying ourselves as either non existent or neurotic losers.

THEY love us bc they see us as amazing. They do not want their men to be second rate to anyone

Fuck this weak bullshit. Enough with supplicating every non Jewish male on the planet.

Only non Jewish men are allowed to brave and moral. If its a Jew he has to be gay or neurotic or an atheist.

Our people need Captain Israel.

And i will be more blunt.

I do not give a flying shit if it makes anyone outside our people happy. I care about OUR YOUTH.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Someone posted on another thread about this that Israel and Jews have IDF soldiers to look up to and countless stories of civilian heroism in the face of overwhelming odds. I agree that as Jews and Israelis we may no longer need superheroes, we have living ones.

That said, the representation does matter to open up peoples minds outside of Israel to what society is really like there and not just what they see through the bias lens of traditional media.

I appreciate your perspective, but I believe the representation can come in the form of straight white religious men, but why not also gay Israelis, Ethiopians, women, immigrants, etc. part of Israel’s strength comes from its freedom of expression and individuality and that all these groups can live and work together toward common goals.

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ron's avatar

Also i didnt say “religious men”. I said “respect religion even if thry are NOT dati”

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ron's avatar

All you are doing is demonstrating the exact mindset that led to us being overrun by savages on oct 7, and caused us to continue being stuck in an as now nine month war, which should have at most taken three.

The view you are espousing does not work in the long run.

Why do I not want gay Israeli superheroes? Because a society that makes heroes out of homosexuals is a society that quickly finds itself with non functioning men and bitter women.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

We don’t agree on this. I served with gay Israeli men who are brave and selfless hero’s and continue to contribute meaningfully to Israeli society. There’s room in Israel for everyone, Zionism is not an exclusionary dream. I hope more people open their minds to accept the beliefs of ultra Orthodox Jews and vice versa. I think we’re stronger together and the types of views you’re espousing divide us in ways that aren’t necessary.

There is more we have in common than not, but you’re constantly focused on driving a wedge between us. Why can’t secular Jews respect your beliefs and you respect theirs and where we have common ground we can work together as an alternative?

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ron's avatar

And the ultimate result of this mindset was an easily preventable massacre by savages and an ongoing nine month war that should have ended after three.

Also talking about respect is hilarious given the last time we argued you were practically celebrating the idea of trying to force the ultra orthodox to serving in the army against their will. Which I was cursing you out for bc your timing, ie the middle of a war, was demented and if cooler heads hadnt prevailed, the Likud coalition would have broken and we would now be pretending not to surrender while surrendering.

Further, again, I specifically wasnt talking about ultra orthodox, or even orthodox, yet this is the second time youve brought it up.

Liberal humanism is a fun and enchanting philosophy, but very few are willing to die for it, and even fewer are willing to raise a lot of children for it, so ultimately its a dead end.

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Donna Druchunas's avatar

Excellent book.

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Lee Saffold's avatar

Everyone must understand that DEI is a communist idea intended to do the opposite of what it claims to seek. It is an intentional sharp blade designed to painfully severe one group from another and thereby creating yet another division between the oppressed and the oppressor classes.

It is amazing to me that this generation seems to be so woefully ignorant of age old communist tactics used to divide and conquer nations and set up a dictatorship and enslave the people. That it has had a popular run in America is proof of the ignorance of communism in this country.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others!

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Lee Saffold's avatar

Indeed, this is true. That is likely the reason our founding fathers deplored “democracy” and established a constitutional republic that makes it possible to leverage the benefits of democracy and avoid the miserable consequences of mob rule that a pure democracy establishes.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

It appears our incessant online bitching and complaining may have actually made an impact and that Disney is considering changing course on their decision to strip Sabra of her Israeli identity.

Let's not celebrate until this thing comes out though and we see what damage has been to done her and how she's been portrayed.

https://www.jpost.com/j-spot/article-811245

Good start team.

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Natalie Shalom🙋's avatar

They can try and erase us as much as they like but you can’t erase the truth

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Farrox's avatar

Always! 🙏🇮🇱🙏 + 🙏🇺🇸🙏

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Farrox's avatar

I’m not Jewish, but there are plenty of us who are horrified and angered by recent events. October 7th opened a lot of people’s eyes.

As for Disney, I’ve been boycotting them since they started all this DEI crap. NOTHING is diverse, equitable, or inclusive about what they’re doing.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Thank you Farrox for being a part of Maccabee Nation and your support!

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Elisheva Milder's avatar

I am shocked, SHOCKED, that Disney should do this. Hold on ... weren't Walt and Henry Ford best friends and didn't Henry ...

Or could it just be that they are a bunch of little scaredy cats who want to lose another couple of billion?

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EFS's avatar

Walt died, but the antisemitism didn't.

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Jeffrey G. Shapiro's avatar

Great. I can’t wait for the Black Panther reboot where they cast Rick Moranis in the lead role.

“While our characters and stories are inspired by the comics, they are always freshly imagined for the screen and today’s audience, and the filmmakers are taking a new approach with the character Sabra…”

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Jason Crystal's avatar

If Tom Cruise was the Last Samurai anything can happen :)

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Dr. Rae's avatar

This deeply saddens but does not surprise me because in a past series on Disney +, Captain America basically condoned terrorist murders and bombings in the name of "social justice." I was appalled and horrified at the time that a family streaming platform would endorse this, but I guess society is now like the proverbial frog in the pot (not scientifically true), that doesn't notice or care when the waters start to boil. I guess Walt Disney's real legacy is antisemitism.

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Mallory M's avatar

The audacity to erase the Jewish identity of a Jewish character in a series by a Jewish person… it’s literally sickening.

The disgusting remake of Mean Girls from earlier this year (that no one asked for) also erased the Jewish identity of Gretchen Wieners— yet another testament to this chronic, trendy, antisemitic erasure— but this is on another level.

I hope it fails miserably.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

It will, everything Disney touches lately turns to shit. 💩

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Lee Saffold's avatar

In my opinion, it is impossible for anyone to actually “erase” the true, honorable identity of the brave Jewish people.

I know of no other race of people who can claim that they were chosen by God to be his people because of the faith of their father, Abraham.

Disney did not create the identity of the Jewish people and they cannot, by the mere manipulation of a fictitious character, either create or destroy the indelible and honorable character of the Jewish people.

What can, and should be done in response to Disney is to live a life that honors your glorious inheritance and blessings from God. The anti-semites can do nothing to alter the true Character of the Jews. I would suggest living up to the standards God set for your people and let identity politics take whatever path it chooses. Then the entertainment industry will learn the futility of the struggle between fiction and fact, between self induced illusions and reality, between a fictitious character that is easy to manipulate and a genuine character that is immutable, solid, and set in the concrete truth of deeds done.

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Lee Saffold's avatar

Thank you, Jason.

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Lee Saffold's avatar

I agree with you. I do not think that boycotts are the way to solve problems. My comment was not intended to suggest or call for a general boycott of Disney. My intent was to express the end of my and my family’s favorable impression of them and justification for our personal choice to have nothing to do with them. They will not miss my business. But my family will always know that we embrace that which is good and wholesome but we have nothing to do with any organization that promotes evil. If my grandkids had never seen lion king I would have no aversion to their seeing it. But the fact that they have seen it means that Disney has nothing wholesome and good to offer my family. Hence I do not foresee doing business with them because they have nothing to offer my family that we want or need plus the lesson I am teaching the grandkids is to have nothing to do with evil, no matter where it is found.

But please know that I am not one who refuses to buy things that I need or that benefits my family in order to force a company or any individual to live up to my standards. I just refuse to associate my name with evil characters for the sake of my personal integrity and my family’s moral stand and safety .

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Jason Crystal's avatar

I think that's a good explanation Lee. I feel similarly.

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Reuben Salsa's avatar

If It's stupid for people to boycott Isreali goods then the same rules should apply here. Sabra is a minor character and while it's wrong and Disney have submitted to cancel culture, at least they haven't erased everyone's cultural background. Magneto in the recent X Men animation was incredible and so many references to his holocaust background. Outraged? Disappointed, but I'm not frothing mad and demand Disney to stop rewriting characters and make Ariel white again...

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Jason Crystal's avatar

The difference there is Magneto is a bad guy, usually. So they’re okay with mutant superheroes being Jewish, as long as they are evil.

I agree I don’t Sabra is a sacred cultural icon of ours, but they filmed a movie then a group complained about dirty Zionist Jew Scum, and they basically agreed and scrubbed it. That’s F’d up and there should be consequences for that type of behaviour.

Also, where is the actress on this issue. They are making Jews feel shame about their ethnicity, that will impact young kids today. How do we restore their pride in their heritage if the world keeps sending them messages they should disappear.

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Nottambula's avatar

Right - just one more thing I hope I can keep from my 12yo daughter. It’s a small thing in comparison to so much else that has happened these past months but the small things add up too. 😞

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Trying to protect our kids from this sick sad world we live in is the hardest part for sure.

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Lee Saffold's avatar

I grew up in a time when Disney was highly respected for their wholesome cartoons and stories that made us laugh and inspired us to be and do good things.

But that has all changed into the direct opposite poll of evil incarnate. For that reason o have not had anything to do with Disney. My grand kids are homeschooled and they care nothing about going to Disney world of darkness and wickedness. My entire family is done with Disney and there is nothing they can do to bring us back to doing any kind of business with them. Nothing!

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Disney has done some stuff our kids love. They love Moana and the Lion King. I wouldn’t want to take those things away from them. I don’t think boycotts are the best way to deal with these things.

When you boycott you actually cede influence in that organization to others and force them to focus their energy elsewhere. I want to hear ideas besides boycott if anyone has any on what we should do here.

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Becky Liken's avatar

This reminds me of my unhappiness with NBC for the latest Law and Order reboot: instead of allowing the Israeli actress to portray an Israeli Jew, they made her character a Lebanese Muslim. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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John Robert's avatar

Really? Was that because the secret services of Lebanon, with its sectarian quota system, have an even more stellar reputation for their professional skills than Israel's services? Riiight!

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Jo-Anne Berelowitz's avatar

Thank you for this! I am not a comic book nerd and knew nothing of this before your essay. Shame on Disney!

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Thank you for reading and being a part of Maccabee Nation.

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