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Jason Crystal's avatar

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pennsylvania-police-arrest-suspect-after-governors-mansion-set-fire-while-gov-josh-shapiro-family-slept

In other Passover news. Glad it looks like they got the guy who set Josh Shapiro’s house on fire.

There’s no room in America for political violence!

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Vicki C.'s avatar

Your story and this one with the PA governor you just referenced are both sad reminders of how much simmering anger too many people seem to have these days. Between unhinged and over the top social outbursts to 0 to 100 road rage to kids sporting events where I have been witness to countless bad behaviors from kids, parents and coaches alike, it seems sometimes that we have all lost the ability to be civil. Having raised two children of my own and now as a hands on grandparent I am usually very much kid oriented and sympathetic to adults dealing with overtired or overstimulated, and alas sometimes just flat out obnoxious kid behavior, but I guess from time to time maybe it's not such a bad idea for parents to be reminded that not everyone finds the children we ourselves dearly love to be all that entertaining, cute, or special. Bottom line, you can't please everyone and as long as my children or grandchildren are not engaging in behavior that is/was overly inconsiderate for their age or could cause harm to someone (running uncontrollably thru a crowded restaurant, throwing things at others, showing disrespect for others belongings, etc.) I usually did not or do not waste much time or energy worrying about adults who might be acting childish themselves. If you are raising your children to be kind, caring, and productive citizens you are getting the most important part right.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Thanks Vicki, I totally agree. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts here.

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Gabe Kay's avatar

Bwahahaha wish I was there Jason, sounds like it was a blast

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Esser Agaroth's avatar

Well, glad you got through the Seder. Besides the kids, was it that much of a challenge? Why is it that we have forgotten that Passover is a holiday? https://esseragaroth.substack.com/p/when-passover-became-holiday-again

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Esser, the more time that passes I am glad we went. Maybe I should have waited a week to write this haha. Thanks for emanating your Passover essay too with the community here!

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Esser Agaroth's avatar

Glad you shared. In many ways, there is more power in personal experiences than in objective observations. :-)

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Liba's avatar

Next year do it at home. Anyhow, Judaism is mainly a home religion, believe it or not. Then you have control about whether it’s too long or too short. You can act out the story and make it interesting for the kids. The kids are the main characters in this story. It should be passed down from parent to children. It’s not easy, I know. I raised a lot of children, and I am still trying to do the best I can with adult children and their children. Not easy, but that’s part of our job in this world. B’Hatzlacha!

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Jason Crystal's avatar

<3 I think that's good advice.

If it were up to me I would very rarely leave our home :)

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Thomas Fritz's avatar

Not enough choices. Yes but. Discipline your kids better But what is better. You have to out smart them snd to do that the parents have to work as a team. There needs to be multiple phases in the proactive and reactive. Sleep on a parenting book then burn it for fuel. Say a prayer with your wife and come out of the corner as a tag team at the next bell. This is a 100 round cage match.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Totally, teamwork is important. It’s tough when parents have differing philosophies on parenting. Thank you for sharing your thoughts !

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Thomas Fritz's avatar

Looks like I got it wrong. It isn’t supposed to be a cage match. Maybe you are supposed to look for a little help according to Marina Lopes

https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Please_Yell_at_My_Kids.html?id=HAc6EQAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y

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L. Daniel Banks's avatar

The fact 57% went with the kids are kids say a lot about why we are in the sad shape we are in. Not telling you how to raise em, but my boy was rambunctious as well. There’s a reason The Creator padded the posterior to paraphrase Proverbs.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Ha, they do get plenty of discipline and generally they’re good kids. To spank or not to spank is a whole different topic. The science out there says it’s not usually helpful with not many experts dissenting. Not gonna tell anyone how to parent, different kids need to be parented differently as well.

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Brian Buchanan's avatar

There’s no greater sound than children, laughing and screaming and having a good time.

My wife will usually try to read or color with children under two years old and I run around and play with children that are a little older. We’re both 69 raised children and our grandchildren even in a social setting if only for a couple hours, people should tolerate and enjoy and celebrate Children playing and laughing and having a great time, let them enjoy their innocence, There’s far too much ugly, hating in this world.

Life is way too short embrace, celebrate, and enjoy your children’s energy, laughter, and love for life as long as you can. It will end a lot quicker than you think or will be prepared for. Witness October 7.

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Jason Crystal's avatar

Thank you Brian. I appreciate you sharing your perspective.

I know having children has made me more appreciative of my own parents and more empathetic to other peoples kids.

I agree that time flies and I don’t want to look back and wish I would have been patient. I’m working on it!

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